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		<title>A Philosophical Poem, Fragment 2, Sylvain Marechal</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[In this fragment Marechal continues the discusson on creation and God, explaining that nature and matter exist without divine intervention. 
Fragment 2
By allowing a God into nature, I think,
Reason&#8217;s betrayed; everything&#8217;s out of sync:
I don&#8217;t know where I come from, who I am, where I&#8217;ll go:
A daily cycle of sorrows (and of kindnesses, too,)
With cruel [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p><em>In this fragment Marechal continues the discusson on creation and God, explaining that nature and matter exist without divine intervention. </em></p>
<p style="text-align:center;">Fragment 2</p>
<p>By allowing a God into nature, I think,</p>
<p>Reason&#8217;s betrayed; everything&#8217;s out of sync:</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know where I come from, who I am, where I&#8217;ll go:</p>
<p>A daily cycle of sorrows (and of kindnesses, too,)</p>
<p>With cruel doubt, clutches my hesitant soul.</p>
<p>Born yesterday, we lose today while waiting, as fools,</p>
<p>Towards a future that is hidden in dark night.</p>
<p>I look for God everywhere and from me he takes flight.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s leave this God, if He&#8217;s such a coward.</p>
<p>Just because it exists, does [that mean] the world need[s] a Lord?</p>
<p>The vase was clay, before being with the potter.</p>
<p>Matter Is, existing before form and worker.</p>
<p>If Nature exists, it exists for itself:</p>
<p>Its form can change, but it is eternal.</p>
<p>If having everything of itself, the world is without author,</p>
<p>It is, at the same time, its own motor.</p>
<p>In vain I plea to myself; useless murmur!</p>
<p>Everything is as it should be, in the bosom of Nature.</p>
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		<title>Before a Crucifix, by Swinburne</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Algernon C. Swinburne (1837-1909) was an English poet, writing in Victorian times.  A later poet, his compatriot Laurence Binyon, calls him &#8220;a man of genius&#8221; and praises the &#8220;torrents of eloquence and marvellous melodies&#8221; of his poetry. He outraged many of his society by his subject matter and language, as well as in his outrageous behaviour.  (Quotations from L. Binyon&#8217;s introduction to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Algernon C. Swinburne (1837-1909) was an English poet, writing in Victorian times.  A later poet, his compatriot Laurence Binyon, calls him &#8220;a man of genius&#8221; and praises the &#8220;torrents of eloquence and marvellous melodies&#8221; of his poetry. He outraged many of his society by his subject matter and language, as well as in his outrageous behaviour.  (Quotations from L. Binyon&#8217;s introduction to the Wordsworth Poetry Library edition of The Works of Algernon Charles Swinburne, 1995)</p>
<p>In this poem, published in 1871, Swinburne condemns Christianity in the strongest possible terms.</p>
<p style="text-align:center;">BEFORE A CRUCIFIX</p>
<p>Here, down between the dusty trees,<br />
   At this lank edge of haggard wood,<br />
Women with labour-loosened knees,<br />
   With gaunt backs bowed by servitude,<br />
Stop, shift their loads, and pray, and fare<br />
Forth with souls easier for the prayer.</p>
<p>The suns have branded black, the rains<br />
   Striped grey this piteous God of theirs;<br />
The face is full of prayers and pains,<br />
   To which they bring their pains and prayers;<br />
Lean limbs that shew the labouring bones,<br />
And ghastly mouth that gapes and groans.</p>
<p>God of this grievous people, wrought<br />
   After the likeness of their race,<br />
By faces like thine own besought,<br />
   Thine own blind helpless eyeless face,<br />
I too, that have nor tongue nor knee<br />
For prayer, I have a word to thee.</p>
<p>It was for this then, that thy speech<br />
   Was blown about the world in flame<br />
And men&#8217;s souls shot up out of reach<br />
   Of fear or lust or thwarting shame -<br />
That thy faith over souls should pass<br />
As sea-winds burning the grey grass?</p>
<p>It was for this, that prayers like these<br />
   Should spend themselves about thy feet,<br />
And with hard overlaboured knees<br />
   Kneeling, these slaves of men should beat<br />
Bosoms too lean to suckle sons<br />
And fruitless as their orisons?</p>
<p>It was for this, that men should make<br />
   Thy name a fetter on men&#8217;s necks,<br />
Poor men&#8217;s made poorer for thy sake,<br />
   And women&#8217;s withered out of sex?<br />
It was for this, that slaves should be,<br />
Thy word was passed to set men free?</p>
<p>The nineteenth wave of the ages rolls<br />
   Now deathward since thy death and birth.<br />
Hast thou fed full men&#8217;s starved-out souls?<br />
   Hast thou brought freedom upon earth?<br />
Or are there less oppressions done<br />
In this wild world under the sun?</p>
<p>Nay, if indeed thou be not dead,<br />
   Before thy terrene shrine be shaken,<br />
Look down, turn usward, bow thine head;<br />
   O thou that wast of God forsaken,<br />
Look on thine household here, and see<br />
These that have not forsaken thee.</p>
<p>Thy faith is fire upon their lips,<br />
   Thy kingdom golden in their hands;<br />
They scourge us with thy words for whips,<br />
   They brand us with thy words for brands;<br />
The thirst that made thy dry throat shrink<br />
To their moist mouths commends the drink.</p>
<p>The toothed thorns that bit thy brows<br />
   Lighten the weight of gold on theirs;<br />
Thy nakedness enrobes thy spouse<br />
   With the soft sanguine stuff she wears<br />
Whose old limbs use for ointment yet<br />
Thine agony and bloody sweat.</p>
<p>The blinding buffets on thine head<br />
   On their crowned heads confirm the crown;<br />
Thy scourging dyes their raiment red,<br />
   And with thy bands they fasten down<br />
For burial in the blood-bought field<br />
The nations by thy stripes unhealed.</p>
<p>With iron for thy linen bands<br />
   And unclean cloths for winding-sheet<br />
They bind the people&#8217;s nail-pierced hands,<br />
   They hide the people&#8217;s nail-pierced feet;<br />
And what man or what angel known<br />
Shall roll back the sepulchral stone?</p>
<p>But these have not the rich man&#8217;s grave<br />
   To sleep in when their pain is done.<br />
These were not fit for God to save.<br />
   As naked hell-fire is the sun<br />
In their eyes living, and when dead<br />
These have not where to lay their head.</p>
<p>They have no tomb to dig, and hide;<br />
   Earth is not theirs, that they should sleep.<br />
On all these tombless crucified<br />
   No lovers&#8217; eyes have time to weep.<br />
So still, for all man&#8217;s tears and creeds,<br />
The sacred body hangs and bleeds.</p>
<p>Through the left hand a nail is driven,<br />
   Faith, and another through the right,<br />
Forged in the fires of hell and heaven,<br />
   Fear that puts out the eye of light:<br />
And the feet soiled and scarred and pale<br />
Are pierced with falsehood for a nail.</p>
<p>And priests against the mouth divine<br />
   Push their sponge full of poison yet<br />
And bitter blood for myrrh and wine,<br />
   And on the same reed is it set<br />
Wherewith before they buffeted<br />
The people&#8217;s disanointed head.</p>
<p>O sacred head, O desecrate,<br />
   O labour-wounded feet and hands,<br />
O blood poured forth in pledge to fate<br />
   Of nameless lives in divers lands,<br />
O slain and spent and sacrificed<br />
People, the grey-grown speechless Christ!</p>
<p>Is there a gospel in the red<br />
   Old witness of thy wide-mouthed wounds?<br />
From thy blind stricken tongueless head<br />
   What desolate evangel sounds<br />
A hopeless note of hope deferred?<br />
What word, if there be any word?</p>
<p>O son of man, beneath man&#8217;s feet<br />
   Cast down, O common face of man<br />
Whereon all blows and buffets meet,<br />
   O royal, O republican<br />
Face of the people bruised and dumb<br />
And longing till thy kingdom come!</p>
<p>The soldiers and the high priests part<br />
   Thy vesture:  all thy days are priced,<br />
And all the nights that eat thine heart.<br />
   And that one seamless coat of Christ,<br />
The freedom of the natural soul,<br />
They cast their lots for to keep whole.</p>
<p>No fragment of it save the name<br />
   They leave thee for a crown of scorns<br />
Wherewith to mock thy naked shame<br />
   And forehead bitten through with thorns<br />
And, marked with sanguine sweat and tears,<br />
The stripes of eighteen hundred years</p>
<p>And we seek yet if God or man<br />
   Can loosen thee as Lazarus,<br />
Bid thee rise up republican<br />
   And save thyself and all of us;<br />
But no disciple&#8217;s tongue can say<br />
When thou shalt take our sins away.</p>
<p>And mouldering now and hoar with moss<br />
   Between us and the sunlight swings<br />
The phantom of a Christless cross<br />
   Shadowing the sheltered heads of kings<br />
And making with its moving shade<br />
The souls of harmless men afraid.</p>
<p>It creaks and rocks to left and right<br />
   Consumed of rottenness and rust,<br />
Worm-eaten of the worms of night,<br />
   Dead as their spirits who put trust,<br />
Round its base muttering as they sit,<br />
In the time-cankered name of it.</p>
<p>Thou, in the day that breaks thy prison,<br />
   People, though these men take thy name,<br />
And hail and hymn thee rearisen,<br />
   Who made songs erewhile of thy shame,<br />
Give thou not ear; for these are they<br />
Whose good day was thine evil day.</p>
<p>Set not thine hand unto their cross.<br />
   Give not thy soul up sacrificed.<br />
Change not the gold of faith for dross<br />
   Of Christian creeds that spit on Christ.<br />
Let not thy tree of freedom be<br />
Regrafted from that rotting tree.</p>
<p>This dead God here against my face<br />
   Hath help for no man; who hath seen<br />
The good works of it, or such grace<br />
   As thy grace in it, Nazarene,<br />
As that from thy live lips which ran<br />
For man&#8217;s sake, O thou son of man?</p>
<p>The tree of faith ingraffed by priests<br />
   Puts its foul foliage out above thee,<br />
And round it feed man-eating beasts<br />
   Because of whom we dare not love thee;<br />
Though hearts reach back and memories ache,<br />
We cannot praise thee for their sake.</p>
<p>O hidden face of man, whereover<br />
   The years have woven a viewless veil,<br />
If thou wast verily man&#8217;s lover,<br />
   What did thy love or blood avail?<br />
Thy blood the priests make poison of,<br />
And in gold shekels coin thy love.</p>
<p>So when our souls look back to thee<br />
   They sicken, seeing against thy side,<br />
Too foul to speak of or to see,<br />
   The leprous likeness of a bride,<br />
Whose kissing lips through his lips grown<br />
Leave their God rotten to the bone.</p>
<p>When we would see thee man, and know<br />
   What heart thou hadst toward men indeed,<br />
Lo, thy blood-blackened altars; lo,<br />
   The lips of priests that pray and feed<br />
While their own hell&#8217;s worm curls and licks<br />
The poison of the crucifix.</p>
<p>Thou bad&#8217;st let children come to thee;<br />
   What children now but curses come?<br />
What manhood in that God can be<br />
   Who sees their worship, and is dumb?<br />
No soul that lived, loved, wrought, and died,<br />
Is this their carrion crucified.</p>
<p>Nay, if their God and thou be one,<br />
   If thou and this thing be the same,<br />
Thou shouldst not look upon the sun;<br />
   The sun grows haggard at thy name.<br />
Come down, be done with, cease, give o&#8217;er;<br />
Hide thyself, strive not, be no more.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[In this spot I will share some of my favourite atheist (or otherwise unorthodox) poetry.
Please feel free to leave any type of comment, whether positive or negative; whether to give useful advice or to commend my spirit to Hell. At this early stage I&#8217;m open to any interested reader&#8230;
For the inaugural posting I thought I&#8217;d share a few stanzas from the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>In this spot I will share some of my favourite atheist (or otherwise unorthodox) poetry.</p>
<p>Please feel free to leave any type of comment, whether positive or negative; whether to give useful advice or to commend my spirit to Hell. At this early stage I&#8217;m open to any interested reader&#8230;</p>
<p>For the inaugural posting I thought I&#8217;d share a few stanzas from the French atheist poet Sylvain Marechal, who wrote these lines in the late 1700s, but didn&#8217;t publish them during his lifetime.</p>
<p>From &#8220;Fragments from a Philosophical Poem&#8221; (my own (sloppy, metre-less) translation), the first of 40 or so fragments&#8230;</p>
<p> </p>
<p style="text-align:center;">FRAGMENT 1</p>
<p>&#8220;World, who made you?  Who lit up the sun?</p>
<p>&#8220;Whom do you owe your life to, Man? Who made everyone?</p>
<p>&#8220;Does the universe have only chance for its Lord?</p>
<p>&#8220;Chance is just a word&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>     But what is God&#8211;something more?</p>
<p>Nothing is unborn; nothing dies not; everything is chained,</p>
<p>All of it to a game of change,</p>
<p>By turns, material otherwise wrought,</p>
<p>Vegetates inside plants, but in Man forms his thoughts:</p>
<p>Everything gets dressed up, puts on, in the same object,</p>
<p>You find, at the same time a principle, an effect:</p>
<p>By its own influence, nature works on it,</p>
<p>And ever takes new forms as fit:</p>
<p>The elements, friends and rivals at once,</p>
<p>Tend to the same goals by contrary laws.</p>
<p>To contain order, or see war in its power;</p>
<p>On Earth, the attack and defense is observed</p>
<p>Perfect balance and of good and crime;</p>
<p>And life and death, all is of equal esteem.</p>
<p>The weak is always the victim of the strong:</p>
<p>Thus, as always, the universe goes along.</p>
<p>     Within a dark dilemma, this professor of no consequence</p>
<p>Comes to me to talk of a God, of a Being of Intelligence,</p>
<p>Who made all for the best, Master of all that is.</p>
<p>&#8220;There is no doubt: a First Cause exists;</p>
<p>&#8220;Everything says, There is a God; everything on the Earth and up over;</p>
<p>&#8220;Of the seasons and days the miraculous order</p>
<p>&#8220;Of opposite creatures, astonishing accord;</p>
<p>&#8220;Of the plan that rules all, the infinite word.</p>
<p>&#8220;Go from one pole to the other and from the mountainous mists,</p>
<p>&#8220;Descend, hardy mortal, to the profound abyss;</p>
<p>&#8220;Everything shows our eyes, shouts with a voice of thunder,</p>
<p>&#8220;That there is a God, author of all these wonders.&#8221;</p>
<p> </p>
<p>If God exists, everything should attest it:</p>
<p>If God exists, could anyone doubt it? </p>
<p>Has geometry ever had an heretic?</p>
<p>Does a reckoner need a stick,</p>
<p>To prove that a triangle always has three sides?</p>
<p>Or that two plus two are four? Besides,<br />
If a God existed, everything would be well, without doubt:<br />
Next to Good is Evil; but crowding in upon my route,<br />
The fears, the boredoms, under a thousand aspects diverse,<br />
Make me a prison for me out of this beautiful universe.<br />
What! below the gaze of a God, vice is ennobled again,<br />
And the wise man, meanwhile, vegetates, forgotten!<br />
The generous transports of proud patriotism,<br />
Give place to the cold calculations of sterile egoism!<br />
See how, below the gaze of God, everywhere self-interest reigns,<br />
And modest virtue invites a disgusted glance!<br />
If God exists, as confessed by Socrates,<br />
Such a God should have saved him from his ungrateful country&#8230;<br />
If God existed, would Nero have been born?<br />
&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;<br />
If God existed, would so many fanatic cases,<br />
These charlatans in our public places,<br />
Would they in His name sell their magic rings,<br />
Smothering Reason beneath their reasonings,<br />
Fooling the good faith of the all too gullible mob,</p>
<p>And seeing it tremble at their feet beneath their rod?</p>
<p>If God were, the people without error</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0;" align="left">Of a universal worship would render Him honours,</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0;" align="left">And beside the same altar, always from intellect,</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0;" align="left">Would praise His power and bless His goodness.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0;" align="left">If a God existed, would the opulent guilty man</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0;" align="left">Dare to fix an insolent glance</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0;" align="left">Upon the righteous, oppressed man, the wise man who, instead of arms,</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0;" align="left">Has but his own tears, innocence and his heart? </p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0;" align="left">In vain should I be opposed by the laws of the world that&#8217;s to come:<br />
Why permit a crime? Just to punish someone?<br />
Should God be pleased to count victims?<br />
He should be great enough to prevent crimes: <br />
Whatever may come, on this terrestrial clod,<br />
<strong>Miserable virtue attests against a God.</strong></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0;" align="left">(Original is online at: <a href="http://gallica.bnf.fr/">http://gallica.bnf.fr/</a>)</p>
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